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Post by xania on Jan 21, 2009 19:06:49 GMT -5
I'm still sore about the loss >.< Guess I can't take a joke
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Post by At on Jan 21, 2009 19:25:04 GMT -5
Lol, no worries, he only beat me from sword of 1000 gayness
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Post by Taka on Jan 21, 2009 20:05:18 GMT -5
i beat him with a lvl 18 Nara thats what you get when you max out one stat.
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Post by rockstar1984 on Jan 21, 2009 21:50:55 GMT -5
How about a love genjutsu? Uses charisma to make one person temporarily fall in love with another, stunning them for so many rounds? That would be awesome. And cha is not only for hot and cool people, its also for people who are mentally strong, good at negotiations, strong in leadership, and good at manipulating people and bluffing. Anyone who has - cha mods lacks the majority of those skills. And I am pretty sure there are plenty of people who say "Cha is not important, who cares if I drop it to make my dexterity 20 at level 1?" Yeah, those people are crazy. Cha is important, its just no one seems to think it is, when really it affects how other chars are supposed to think of them. Its just that many people when they make a char think only about the combat builds, and not about roleplaying their abilities outside of combat. I personally think that any char that has a cha of less then 10, should not be allowed any leadership position and have to work harder to become a jounin. There should be some penalty for have a - in any ability.
I also think that Wis and Int are tied for second. Int is obvious, how smart a char is, being good at genjutsu is only a side thing that comes with it. As for Wis, it is how wise, sensible, and discreet a char is. It also represents an understanding of other people and how their minds work, and how insightful one is. It is also for the strength of the mind and how strong willed someone is.
So yeah, I personally think that people should start basing their ability choices on how they want to rp their chars, not how they want them to be stronger than average. And I congratulate the people that do and agree with me. And I have a question: If someone has negative con, does it mean they have to subtract from their hp? I think penalties should be in affect for all abilities below 10. Low str means a penalty to damage, low con means less hp, low wis means its harder to learn ninjutsu, Int means harder to learn genjutsu, if both int and wis are below 10 they suffer a cp penalty, cha makes it so the char can't get any leadership positions and they have to work harder to advance in rank somehow.
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Post by Taka on Jan 21, 2009 22:30:57 GMT -5
actually, INT is genjutsu.. and isnt used for the smartness. smartness would be the skill lore.
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Post by xania on Jan 21, 2009 22:36:35 GMT -5
Taka, I have to say that your fight with me using the nara, gave me the worst rolls I've ever seen on my dicebag. Still, you won that one, a fair fight. ^_^
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Post by jackrussel on Jan 22, 2009 6:44:01 GMT -5
We don't use Intelligence for Intelligence? Damn, this craps crazy.XD
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Post by rockstar1984 on Jan 22, 2009 10:52:06 GMT -5
Int is for intelligence, why else would it be called intelligence? Lore is supposed to be studying and learning about history, legends, etc. and is nowhere near actual intelligence. Intelligence is also supposed to be how good one is at learning. There is a difference between intelligence and and smartness, btw. Irl, smartness is gained from learning, Intelligence is how well the brain works. Intelligence is not how much you know, it's how much you are able to comprehend and apply the things that you have learned in order to solve problems. Intelligence is cleverness, how well you apply knowledge, etc.. Thats what Int is. Lore is supposed to be smartness, which in d'n'd is actually divided into several different types of knowledge such as nature, history, nobility, arcane, geography, etc. but bioware decided to simplify and make it all one skill. But anyway, Intelligence is how developed and strong your brain is, not how good you are at genjutsu. Being good at genjutsu just happens to be something that uses the power of one's brain, making intelligent people more adept at it.
Do I really have to say in a paragraph or two what each ability is supposed to be, and how its supposed to affect the rp of a char? It just seems to me that most people do not think about how the abilities they choose will influence how their char -should- be rped.
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Post by Xania not logged in on Jan 22, 2009 11:46:04 GMT -5
The limitations of NWN need to be pointed out. We can't avoid using those 6 attributes, we can only assign different IC effects to them. If there are better choices for Genjutsu then Intelligence, just say so. The same for taijutsu and Ninjutsu respectively... Point being that they're assigned correctly as it is. Also, I don't agree with penalties for mods. A player should be able to make their character as smart as they like, or as charismatic. It will just hinge on how well they rp that... which comes down to a skill with acting. In essence: the better people roleplay, the stronger their characters (at least for the intellectual skills). Anyone can say: "Oh, I'm strong as superman!" . . . That's where mods should actually take effect. Players can be no stronger, faster, or resilient than their mods allow them to be, and this will be reflected in combat.
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Post by xania on Jan 22, 2009 16:26:46 GMT -5
F.Y.I. The original purpose of this post was combat oriented
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Post by shadowmaster on Jan 27, 2009 14:32:33 GMT -5
i like the idea of Charisma Genjutsu Charisma is TOTALLY useless... i'd becool if it was usedfor somthing (Besides ppl like ichiban/other's who love to turn strait ppl gay from having 20-somthing mods in it for the heck of it XD)
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Post by xania on Jan 28, 2009 16:58:05 GMT -5
Intelligence must be feeling pretty dejected right now... 0 votes. Even constitution has more votes than The genjutsu mod. >_> . . . And if CHA is TOTALLY useless, then why is it voted the best stat?
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Post by Tyrantos on Jan 29, 2009 10:17:11 GMT -5
Cause it's so fail that it's epic?
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Post by At on Jan 29, 2009 16:47:56 GMT -5
Intelligence is mostly useless.
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Post by skippy on Jan 29, 2009 17:00:32 GMT -5
I acually have a character that is constitution based items happen to give him strength too but rp wise I wanted the guy to be able to take ANYTHING and keep coming heh, so personnally I think the stats are all about the same, depends on what you want to do
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