Kaguya Bloodline

[valtorr]

Dr to Ninjutsu is not that epic these days , since most Ninjutsu attacks deal 25+ damage..even with 6 Dr they deal alot of dmg.

The extra HP is nice but in theory just extends the fight...and people we're talking 160 tokens!
Uchiha: good at everything
Kodo: Good at Ninjutsu
Kaguya: okay at taijutsu..this should be good too

and you all probably think im biased due to the fact I have a kaguya but Im not.

[Dm Anko]

The kagyua won the tournament. In fact, every kagyua that has ever gone through the chunnin exams has won the tournament. It's fine the way it is. Your complaining about low damage at genin?? NO DUH! Everyone does low damage at genin. My hyuuga's doing 1d4 damage to chakra and health, for 3 cp a round! (2 gentle fist, 1 byakugan). And no other class will do 4d8 damage (32 max...A Rank damage, might I add) for NO chakra cost, and a -2 to hit. Per round. That means in say...4 rounds, they have done 16-128 damage. how much chakra did they spend? ZIP.

If your trying to get a Kagyua beefed enough for a genin to beat a jounin, it's not going to happen. Even kakashi as a jounin destroyed sasuke as a genin.

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Jul 27, 2009 15:16:51 GMT -5 Dm Anko said:

The kagyua won the tournament. In fact, every kagyua that has ever gone through the chunnin exams has won the tournament. It's fine the way it is. Your complaining about low damage at genin?? NO DUH! Everyone does low damage at genin. My hyuuga's doing 1d4 damage to chakra and health, for 3 cp a round! (2 gentle fist, 1 byakugan). And no other class will do 4d8 damage (32 max...A Rank damage, might I add) for NO chakra cost, and a -2 to hit. Per round. That means in say...4 rounds, they have done 16-128 damage. how much chakra did they spend? ZIP.

If your trying to get a Kagyua beefed enough for a genin to beat a jounin, it's not going to happen. Even kakashi as a jounin destroyed sasuke as a genin.

It's not that Anko.

First off, certain things for Kaguya need to be explained better. Like how the bone weap damage works.

Another thing is that a Kaguya at genin only has a bonus of +2.

Kodo(at 160 tokens) at genin can have a bonus of +5 to hit and an extra 1d4 damage to anything other then their free attack.

Also, My main complaint is that their isn't enough taijutsu for a Tai based Kaguya to learn. In fact, there is no specific taijutsu for them. It gets a little vanilla after a while I'm sure.


Also Valtor, 4d10 deals an average of 20. My s rank therefore deals an average of 14 against jounin Kaguya. Course de ubahstun is nice(while it lasted). Now it feels like I want a new S-rank, mine has just been replaced with a nerf dart launcher technique, but offtopicofftopic.

[valtorr]

So are you guys going to revise the Kaguya?

[valtorr]

This is how I would make them. ((everything in red is changed))

Shikotsu Myaku : Dead Bone Pulse <---- 160 tokens

The Kaguya clan's power, dead bone pulse, allows its bearer to harden the skeleton and
the creation of new bone tissues to replace those that have gone missing, one of the clan's
specialty. In its purest form, the bloodline even allows the regeneration of lost limbs and
crippling injuries at alarming rates. In the long run, there is very little that can
permanently cripple the bearer of the Shikotsu Myaku.

Kaguya are extremely well built and fast Giving them Bonuses HP and Dex rolls depeneding on Rank
Genin: +10 HP, and +2 to DEX rolls
Chuunin: +15 HP, and +3 to DEX rolls
Jounin: +20 HP, and +5 to DEX rolls

Bone Weapon: The character is proficient at removing strengthened bones from his
body and using them as battle implements—thus creating a bone weapon.

Genin: CP Cost: 5, Weapon damage: 1d8, reduced penalty to -1 to attack roll, -2 if dual weild
Chuunin: CP Cost: 3, Weapon damage: 2d6, no penalty to hit, -2 to attack rolls if dual weilding
Jounin: CP cost: 1, Weapon Damage: 2d8, no penalty to hit, -2 to attack rolls if dual weilding

Bone Armor: The Kaguya who posses the dead Bone Pulse have strengthend bones allowing them to take
less damage and shrug off most attacks.

Genin: DR3 against taijutsu/kenjutsu DR 1 vs Ninjutsu
Chuunin: DR6 against taijutsu/kenjutsu DR 4 vs Ninjutsu
Jounin: DR9 against taijutsu/kenjutsu DR 6 vs ninjutsu

Note: This Dr does not apply to damage done internally to the tenketsu (genjutsu)

Regrowth: A Kaguya may regrow lost limbs and body parts except a head. This ability is purely RP but if it does happen it takes 2 days RL for a limb/body
part to regrow.

Kaguya Hijutsu:

Sawarabi no Mai (Dance of the Seedling Ferns)
Rank: S
Cost: 20 CP
Taijutsu
Description:The fifth and final dance of the Kaguya style is also one of the most deadly. By means of
this technique, the user focuses and empowers his bones and sends them through the
ground, ripping through it as much like trees would in a forest, though extremely close together.
PVP: Deals 3d10+2d8 in a straightline path to all targets infront of the user. The user cannot attack the next round due
to the immense shock the jutsu puts on the body.
Requires:Dead Bone Pulse ((why different damage? dude you get impaled..that stuff should be like lethal to everyone))

Tessenka no Mai (Dance of the Clematis)
Rank: S
Cost: 18 CP + 5 for each round mantained
Taijutsu
Description:This extremely dangerous technique is considered the fourth dance of the Kaguya style. It
was forbidden for an excellent reason by the fourth leader, Kaguya Chinmei, because in
involves concentrating all of one's strength in one place or pulling out one's spine. Only
the most talented and gifted in the arts of the bloodline were ever able to master the
technique, anyway; the rest died in attempting to learn it. When performing this
technique, the user choses one of two modes to use the technique for Vine, or Flower.
PVP: Vine: The user makes a whip bone weapon that deals 2d8 + opponent makes a STR check Vs the Attack roll or trips making attack impossible for them for one round.
Flower: The User forms a lance like growth on thier arm that deals 4d8 per hit and ignores 2 pts of DR on the target.
No matter which mode used, the jutsu lasts for 1d6+1 rounds and can be cancled early.
Requires: Dead Bone Pulse, and must learn this successfully in one session or the character makes a CON Save DC 25 or dies. DC goes up by 2 for the next session making it 27.


Kamaratsu no Mai (Dance of the Larch)
Rank: A
Cost: 11 CP
Taijutsu
description: Using this technique, the user uses his bloodline to extract his bones to a greater degree
than with any of the previous dances. Out of everywhere on his body, forearm, hands,
ribs, back, shoulder and even his legs, the bones stick out in a protective and lethal armor.
PVP: All succesful defense rolls against taijutsu result in 1d8 to the attacker, and the user may spin wildly to attack up to
4 foes in close range of him/herself dealing damage appropriate for thier ninja taijutsu rank. This lasts for 1d8+2 rounds.
Requires: Dead Bone Pulse.

Togeyomi no Jutsu (Underworld Spine Technique)
Rank: B
Cost: 8 CP
Taijutsu
Description:Using this forbidden technique, the user is able to poison his blood in order to enhance
his bone weapons. Each bone weapon created while the technique's effect last will be
poisonned.
PVP: The bone weapons now force a CON save DC 23 or the target is poisoned. the poison deals 1d4 each round and doesnt stack with multiple hits
The poison lasts until the target is KO or Recieves a B rank or Higher Med Jutsu. the use of this techinque deals 1d8 damage to the user.
Requires: Dead Bone Pulse

Tsubaki no Mai (Dance of the Camellia)
Rank: B
Cost: 6 CP
Taijutsu
Description:Using this technique, the second dance of the Kaguya style, the user increases his speed allowing a rapid barrage of thrusts and strikes with bone weapons.
PVP: Allows one additional attack with a bone weapon at -2 damage no less than 1 damage can be dealt. When dual weilding th attack deals 1d4.
Requires: Dead Bone Pulse

Teshi Sengan (Ten Finger Bullets)
Rank: C
Cost: 4 CP
Taijutsu
Description: To properly use this technique, the user must have at least one hand free per five bullets
(maximum being usually 10, one per finger).
PVP: The user rolls 2 attack rolls, one per each hand of bullets fired on each successful hit the target takes 1d8+2
Requires: Dead Bone Pulse

just a suggestion

[ectheledhel]

Agree with those changes Valtorr except I think 1d8+2 rounds is a little long. It should be more like 1d4+2 rounds.

[renegade93]

+10 HP and +2 Dex at genin? You already destroy everyone I don't know why you need more...

I agree with the 1d8 return damage if you BLOCK the attack... if you dodge an attack then they wouldn't make contact with the bones.. and you shouldn't get an extra round to hit 4 people for taijutsu damage... that's OP as well... and for 1d8+2 rounds? That's a long long time.

Also a CON save of 23? You're kidding... a CON save of 23 is an easy fail AND 1d4 poison damage per round is pretty much end game with that +5 dex you have at jounin which you can use to constantly dodge... that's an OP move...

[ectheledhel]

You should go read the clan as it is renegade....Kaguya ALREADY get +10hp at Genin, the only change shown in that example is instead of getting +1 DEX a Kaguya would get +2 DEX at Genin, which...Uchiha get +2 at Genin, first rank Kodo get +2 WIS (70 token cost), Bokusou get +2 Genjutsu at Genin (70 tokens), Uskada get +2 STR and +2 CON at genin (70 tokens), Yuuhi get +2 Genjutsu at Genin (40 tokens, I mean its a Clan! Its not even a Bloodline!) are you getting the picture here? Kaguya is a 160 token Bloodline....160....its supposed to be powerful, its supposed to rival the Uchiha and the Kodo. As for the CON save, yes, I agree, that is a little high....but then I wouldn't set it lower than 20....a Kaguya takes damage for using the jutsu and 1d4 a round could be as little as 1 damage a round....its not an OP ability. As for the A Rank...1d8+2 rounds is too long, but for what it does as it is and the cp cost it is a useless ability...1d8 damage return on 1 attack for 11cp (that is its current state) or 1d8 damage to 4 players? That is weak for an A Rank...most AoE A Ranks do minimum 2d8 if not 1d20 or 3d8 to multiple opponents. Renegade, in future i'd ask kindly that you at least have some knowledge of what you are talking about when you venture an opinion.

[kain delvin]

etch, it's not 1d8 return on one attack... it's 1d8 return on all attacks for 1d8 + 2 rounds, and then in the mean time your also hitting 4 people with 1d8 dmg each round from your attacks so with your bonuses against someone who isnt uchiha/kodo your dealin aprox 2d8 dmg a round for 1d8 +2 rounds for the cost of 11 cp....thats a lot.

[renegade93]

ecthe... you ask that I have knowledge on it well that proves my point further... they ALREADY have +10 HP at genin.. that's alot of hitpoints... and put it this way, You paid 160 tokens for a weak bloodline.. all that says is that you were foolish enough to do it. I mean ok it is a little weak for 160 but you are only noticing that now that you are playing one... well think about it... if YOU had knowledge of it prior to playing one then you might not have chosen that in the first place. I know I certainly would not have... choose one of the other clans instead if they are so great...

[ectheledhel]

Kain...if you'd read what I typed I agreed 1d8+2 rounds was too long....as the ability currently is though its a 1 off...you can spend 11cp to defend against a tai attack and IF you succeed you deal 1d8 damage OR you can spend 11cp and attack up to 4 people for 1d8 each....as it is, it is a useless ability. Having it usable for multiple rounds is a good way to make it useful and if you'd read my suggestion was 1d4+2 rounds though i'd say 1d4+1 would even be suitable. It is also only a defense against Tai....Nin and Gen still go through fine. And thank you renegade for calling Kaguya a weak bloodline, clearly you agree then that it shouldn't be worth 160 tokens or it needs to be improved so it is worth its cost. Thank you for validating my point .

[renegade93]

Indeed it isn't worth 160, but instead of upping the bloodline, I think they should down the price and give the people who payed 160 a refund equal to the difference. I mean Kaguya shouldn't be a super amazing blood line anyways... they -were- wiped out in the anime after all even when they were all massed together right?

[ectheledhel]

You should watch the anime more closely....Kaguya were incredible...they were just dumb.

[valtorr]

note: Kaguya clan was weak
Note 2: Shikotsumyaku Kaguya > was never beaten in battle..The guy could OWN! a jinchuuriki!? If it wasnt for the disease Kimimaro wouldve killed him.

[valtorr]

And no the A rank is OP now ((I checked with jeric)) You pay 11 CP and it stays active for the entire fight. So if you win the taijutsu defense roll enemy gets 1d8 DMG. Next round you can attack for people for 1d10 dmg. It didnt have a timelimit..that was the ''bug''